Technocrat
    06/23/08

    2.1.0 for sell!?

    Thank you to everyone that has brought this to my attention. I figured I would get this off my chest and hopefully let everyone know what the deal is.

    Just as an FYI I am doing it on my blog because I want to keep the NE site clean of crap like this.

    I am not selling a version of Nuke-Evolution nor the project itself. What is happening is that a person who will remain nameless has gotten their hands on an outdated copy of the project and is claiming that he "fixed" it and is trying to sell it.

    Before I get to the "fixed" point I want to cover why are they selling it and not giving it to me to use. Two reasons, first is because the person selling has a strong dislike of me for not being bullied into a situation that I felt was not right with our users or the Nuke community as a whole by him. Because of this the person became aggressive, angry, and bitter and choose to lash out in a child like fashion. As a result I blocked him from my IM and banned him from the site. His unprofessional attitude and idiotic threats were inexcusable. In his child like mind his answer was to do this, which is fine because of my second point.

    Secondly is because I don't want it. He encrypted part of the system to hide some features that he added and keep them from being removed. I don't know about all the features that were added except one. The reason for that feature was to block people that he deems as "bad" from your site. He wants to keep a database of users that he feels have "stolen" from the community. When these users try to go on to your site they will be blocked from accessing it. You as the admin have no control over it. What's so bad about that you ask? Well lets break it down.

    I should state this is all done on the assumption that the system is still based around the ideas he pitched to me. I might be wrong but I doubt it.

    First the db would be run by him on his site. So people put on this db are done so by him. You have no control over it and since you can't remove it because it's encrypted then well your stuck. Also people on that list had no way to get off it if they made a mistake or changed. So once you were on it you were stuck on it. Just to prove my point all my the staff on NE and I am on his list as his way to get back at us. Hmm...that seems impartial and fair right?? :-/

    Secondly I haven't seen the code, but I am going to assume he has done it stupidly because the php questions he used asked me made it appear that his skills were slightly better than novice but not by much. Let's say that this become popular and say 5,000 sites use it. So each time a user even goes to the site it will have to call home and ask if this person is someone that should be allowed to use the site or not. Imagine all the traffic that would generate in just requests!? Do you think he has purchased a server big enough to handle that? There would be no way I would want to pay that out every month. What do you suppose will happen when the server bogs down, or is down completely? Think your site will continue to work correctly?

    Finally how efficient do you think this method is at stopping people? What are you going to do block every proxy? What happens if someone gets a new ISP? What about people that share the same IP pool? Remember this process is fair, so surely he would rectify the situation....right? So just think of all the logistics that go into this, so you think one person can handle it?

    Oh did I mention that encrypting software like this violates the GPL license? So basically he is being the same type of person that he is trying to protect you from. Kettle meet pot comes to mind.

    Now I would like to cover his concept of "fixed" 2.1.0. I know the biggest bug in the system is one that someone of his limited skills in PHP couldn't fix. It's a bug that doesn't show up but in certain situations. But when it does it's very problematic and will bring your site to a crashing halt. So I am sure he doesn't know that it exists but it will surely show it's ugly head at some point in his version. It's the bug that ReOrg and I have been battling for some time and we are having a difficult time correcting it 100%. So I imagine that it's still and issue in his version and I can't wait for the person that buys it comes across it and wonder WTF! Why can't I get this site working at all.

    He is also claiming that he doesn't want us to get the "fixes" because we don't deserve them and acts like we will never find and fix these problems. Yeah....right. I have never said I can't fix them, it's simply a matter of priority and time. I just don't feel that my time is best spent working on this (or writing this stupid blog post on him). ReOrg has managed to actually fix a number of bugs yesterday and today. It's probably a lot more stable today then the version he surely has. But what ever.

    I would like to end with this fact, 2.1.0 is open to anyone that really wants a copy. 100% free. It always has been. I have said it before and will say it again, I will give you a working copy if you want. The only reason we keep it private it to stop people from using it when they shouldn't be (like before yesterday's fixes!?). It's not some top secret project. It's a GPL project and we stick to that. Just drop me a line.

    So if you want to buy or use some 1/2 done version of 2.1.0 by a person that can't code, is childish and unprofessional, and is forcing his beliefs and crappy code on you, then by all means go right ahead. But don't come crying to me when you realize you have made a HUGE mistake.

    3 comments

    # Luckyluciano on 06/24/08 at 07:25
    Thank you for having revealed who hides behind that person really who I understand is only a child presumptuous. I did not know really all that, your news me open eyes, thanks for this.
    # ceaser on 06/25/08 at 13:28
    what a loser. i really cant stand this guy, he needs to get over himself and find another site.
    # NukeD on 07/08/08 at 14:38
    Two Faced comes to mind....shame on you (name here) show everyone your true colors

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